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Post by frankfishmonger on Jan 11, 2013 9:00:37 GMT -5
Hope this worked. This is shy little delicate Freda. Attachments:
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Post by FishManDan on Jan 11, 2013 21:45:08 GMT -5
Nice tank Frank... love how you did sand, would you reccomend sand I have heard some controversy over it.
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Post by guppyguy on Jan 13, 2013 3:05:45 GMT -5
I like Dans question , I have been wanting to go sand in my tanks but havent due to the frog population ...Always heard that they would ingest the sand and then get a blockage and you know whats next bye bye froger . But on the same note; the people saying not to use sand also say not to use gravel cause the way the lil guys torpedo straight down and face plant into the sub . So this is a really good question for someone with experiance you have Frank , wish is it sand hurts frogs or not ? If you say not Im goin out for sand tommarow so I will need specifics about what sand you have  Thinking that may solve my grass problem ...the gravel wont let the grass take root whereas the sand would be just fine . |
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Post by frankfishmonger on Jan 13, 2013 5:53:05 GMT -5
Guys, I love the sand. It is plain old Quikrete Play Sand...about $3.75 for a 50 lb bag at The Home Depot. You need to rinse the living daylights out of it and when you think it's ready, rinse a few more times. I do a couple of pounds in a bucket at a time and swish it around with my hand until the water looks clear. Put it in the tank wet and use a plate or bowl for the water to hit when refilling. My water is just a little cloudy for 8-12 hours and then it is nice and clear.
Charlie, the frogs were my concern when I was thinking about switching also. When I researched it, I was told that sand is closer to their natural habitat and that they could spit it out easier than a hunk of gravel. The frogs have been with the sand for about 4 months now with no problems that I can see. I have noticed them spitting out sand. The way they attack their food, I could see a piece of gravel getting lodged in their throats. Just my experience.
The sand is also easier to keep looking clean and it really anchors the plants well. I have better luck with plants in general since switching. I'd definitely recommend it. Other folks use pool filter sand also. They claim it's cleaner. I think play sand looks more natural.
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Post by guppyguy on Jan 13, 2013 12:56:44 GMT -5
Thanks Frank ,
I was playing with the idea of harvesting some wild from the river floor ...whatcha think ? Or maybe a clay bottom tank ...I never heard of that but its natural in most rivers and swamps with a leaf bed . .. I try to carpet my tank floor as much as possible with the exception of the center mass of 5-6 inches and a spot here and their for feeding and play for bottom dwellers .
The quickcrete doesnt have any additives ? I thought for sure some silica pr some crap would be in it , thats awsome and I can get a bag easy . Thanks agin bud ,.
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Post by frankfishmonger on Jan 13, 2013 15:32:27 GMT -5
Charlie, Byron uses the Quikrete Play Sand, so right there you know it's perfect;-)
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Post by FishManDan on Jan 13, 2013 20:02:36 GMT -5
Your going to have some compatition
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Post by guppyguy on Jan 14, 2013 10:43:08 GMT -5
LOL , Well there you go ;D Whats the deal with the sand they sell for aquariums ? just pricey or is it something to do with the texture or something else ? just curious cause most people I hear about useing sand dont use the sand they sell in petstores ..
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Post by FishManDan on Jan 14, 2013 14:37:36 GMT -5
I heard it is good for tanks to
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Post by frankfishmonger on Jan 14, 2013 19:21:49 GMT -5
I think the pet store sand acts as a major buffer and, let's face it, it's expensive. The play sand is supposedly inert and won't alter the water. It could be the texture also. A lot of pet store sand has sharp pieces of shells, etc. Seems like it's meant for marine aquariums.
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Post by guppyguy on Jan 15, 2013 3:57:08 GMT -5
I started to use a bag my wife had left over from a buy for her terarium but chose not to .. I wasnt sure of the affect it would have on my water ...Its a dragon sand and as such is calcium inriched, wasnt sure if that would be good or bad for the ole water quality ya know . But your right the stuff is outrages high . She got it and found out she shouldnt even use it after she put it in the tank ! Come to find out juvie bearded dragons dont need sand as they like the ADF's will ingest it and suffer from digestive problems blockages and so on ..(tip) If you get a bearded dragon under 6 inches use newspaper for a substrate its cheap and easy to clean and the dragons dont mind it lol guess they like reading when they do their buisness to  I kmow I know another not my best but it was a little funny |
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Post by frankfishmonger on Jan 15, 2013 8:42:26 GMT -5
When I worked at P&G, we used to call the men's room The Library. You could always hear newspapers rustling in the stalls.
We babysat my grand kids' bearded dragon for a couple of weeks last summer. It was cool. They really go after those crickets. It loved blueberries too.
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I kmow I know another not my best but it was a little funny