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Post by guppyguy on Jan 24, 2013 6:12:35 GMT -5
you know that could work seriously , I mean take the guppy for instance . its a naturally brackish fish but has became a fresh water over the generations .
So I dont see any real flaw to your ideal Dan . Out of curiosity though what species are you considering the first to start the experament ? I would suggest a hardy prolific breeder , to help go through generations faster . Bringing up another fish we have discussed I know but their is a killi fish species that fully marine , that migh be a consideration for you as they require little space as well as they breed like rabbits .
Which ever you choose I would go full marine species not brackish that way its a true change .
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Post by frankfishmonger on Jan 24, 2013 6:24:58 GMT -5
Maybe look for a true marine species that has been observed well up a fresh water river. At least you would know that they have the basics for tolerating the change. Part of the challenge for this type of experiment has been that, once you get to a certain point, the fish stop breeding. That puts a halt to the process in a hurry. I think that patience (very gradual change) might overcome that. I have all the faith in the world in you, Dan.
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Post by guppyguy on Jan 24, 2013 7:16:46 GMT -5
Back to bettas for a secomd here ,
Has anyone ever had a pair that lived in peace full time ?
I have a betta that likes tank mates but ...i cant find a tank mate that likes him , every fish i put in with him freaks out and goes into hyper shock or oh chit mode the second they see him . like jumping out of the tank kinda mode really .
But he doesnt charge them or throw his gills out anything he just swimms up and looks at the newbie and goes on back to admireing his reflection or chasing his tailfin or harassing a shrimp whatever he was doin b4 he noticed the newbie . its like he knows he freaks them out and leaves them alone.
Well this got me to wondering maybe another betta wouldnt be scared of him and while i know another male is out of the question i was wondering about a female ...any advice or experiance would be great .
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Post by frankfishmonger on Jan 24, 2013 7:35:48 GMT -5
Well, it's weird. I put my male betta in a community tank with very mild tank mates and he chased them relentlessly. I was really amazed at how fast he could swim. He's back on his own now. Unless you put them in a big tank, or have many females, I think the male would eventually kill a female. Once mating is completed, the males consider the females a rival or something to be kept away. As you have mentioned before, bettas are so intelligent. They have their distinct personalities and you can't make many generalizations. I guess it's always better to be prepared with a Plan B.
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Post by FishManDan on Jan 24, 2013 14:36:14 GMT -5
I would have to think about it
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Post by guppyguy on Jan 26, 2013 6:15:47 GMT -5
Well its been a week now to the day since I added the rasbora to the betta tank and all is well !!
The standoff tactic the rasbora were into has faded and now they are happily swimming around all over the tank beside and around alpha ( the betta ) and still no fighting , while I am still watching very closely for any sign of change or sudden change of temperment everything is great between the fish right now .
The fin nippin has stopped and alpha is starting to look alot better already , really seems that the company helped him . I guess like you said the bettas are so full of personality that each one needs diffrent things to be happy while some will kill any thing in the tank others want and need others in the tank to be healthy and happy . Im still wondering if I could add females now more than ever ..What if I made it a sorority like they talk about on the other site ? Have a handfull like 3 or 4 girl bettas and leave the rasbora in aswell with alpha , then I could have baby bettas ...that would be cool . I've never raised bettas b4 , but have seen and researched it in detail and am fascinated by the process how the males care for the eggs and fry . A bubble nest ..i mean c'mon thats cool , and how they put the eggs in their mouths ...also cool .
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Post by FishManDan on Jan 26, 2013 10:13:57 GMT -5
Cool beans
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Post by frankfishmonger on Jan 26, 2013 14:15:17 GMT -5
Give it a shot, Charlie. You seem to have the knack.
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Post by guppyguy on Jan 28, 2013 12:47:51 GMT -5
Looking for a female now ...but I have a new problem lol . like I've said b4 a hundred times I'm very unfamiliar with bettas and their types and disease . I have assumed that mine is a half moon or veil tail wich ever you want to call it . But now for a couple days his tail looks strnge ....like a crowntail ......just tendrals and i've been watching their is no nipping and no other fish show signs of rot so I dont know ...could my betta just know be healing or matureing to the point of its tail taking that shape? it was a wal-mart rescue so their was no label just male beta on the bowl lid . And i dont wanna get the wrong kinda female as well i want to heal him if hes sick
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Post by frankfishmonger on Jan 28, 2013 19:19:14 GMT -5
I have a plain old veil tale male and one day I came home and his fins looked like that. Looked like he had been in a fight with another male. I thought fin rot right away so I looked it up. Clean water is the best cure. Mine is in a 2.5 gallon with no substrate, so it's easy to clean. It worked very quickly though.
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Post by guppyguy on Jan 29, 2013 13:15:22 GMT -5
thanks Frank , I been wondering what the he&& to do . I dont have a empty at the moment wich is odd but still a problem for me , I have fish in every tank . a hospitol tank is kinda out right now if someone gets sick everyone gets treated . I know its wrong but i cant help it at the moment if i combine any 2 species then the over population would be worse than whatever i am tryin to treat in the first place .
I can do daily water changes though , you think that would help ? should I dose with salt also?
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Post by frankfishmonger on Jan 29, 2013 19:19:33 GMT -5
I think the water changes would be great. Not experienced with the salt, so can't say. Maybe approach that as though you were treating the most salt sensitive fish in the tank.
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Post by FishManDan on Jan 29, 2013 20:49:18 GMT -5
My Betta Spike died... crowntail male black and white marbled... I am going in the other room if u here something that sounds like a grownman crying its just the pipes
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Post by guppyguy on Jan 30, 2013 5:37:11 GMT -5
Aw crap Dan Im sory man what happened to him ? or do you know ? please tell me it didnt sound like whats happening to my betta alpha right now  |
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Post by FishManDan on Jan 30, 2013 14:32:31 GMT -5
Old age
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